off late i find that the directors who gave absolutely brilliant films at one point are going downwards... what do others think?

priyadarshan gave hera pheri and after that hungama, hulchul, malamaal weekly, phir hera pheri followed.... i dont think any of them surpassed hera pheri... so wats wrong?

madhur bhandarkar gave chandni bar, page 3, corporate, traffic signal... again not upto the mark...

farhaan akhthar gave dil chahta hai, then lakshya and then don... i think he shud get original again...

rgv off late has directed movies like shiva and nishabd...

vidhu vinod chopra gave eklavya recently...

so what do others think?

Priyadarshan didnt direct Phir hera Pheri..

Priyadarshan just copies famous comedy movies from malyalam. So I dont think he was a great director to begin with. All his movies in Hindi have been remakes. So maybe he finished remaking all the good malyalam movies and he is remaking all the average malyalam movies now..

Farhan Akthar made 2 good movies with DCH and lakshya but we cant judge him on DON bcoz it is a remake and it has SRK in Big B's role.

RGV - havent seen Shiva or Nishabdh so cant comment on his fall-off but he has been giving bad movies once in a while after giving great movies (Daud came after rangeela, Mast came after Satya)

I dont think Vinod Chopra is all that great a director in the first place.. He just boasts about his movies in his interviews. He is a good producer though and all the movies he has produced but not directed have been great. (Munnabhai series and parineeta)

i dont think i would straightaway qualify vidhu vinod chopra as good producer only... he did give parinda, mission kashmir, 1942 a love story... off late he is into writing/ producing/ directing movies..

priyadarshan, i was first impressed by him when i saw virasat (was that a remake?), the movie was brilliant... anil kapoor, tabu, amrish puri, milind gunaji all have acted too good... i guess he is trying to cash on his repo as a director for good comedies since hera pheri... i did not know that he did not direct phir hera pheri though :-)... but i guess bhagam bhag was bad as well...

farhan akhtar's don was hyped too much and he has plans to make don-2... i am not too impressed by that given his credits include dch and lakshya...

rgv, the last movie i liked from factory was sarkaar... i am sure his sholay cannot be upto the mark... having nisha kothari for basanti, a model playing role of jai, ajay devgan as veeru (he cant do comedy)...

actually i heard abt priyadarshan even before virasat, it was when he had directed gardish... another brilliant movie...

Both Virasat and Gardish were remakes..

i checked out pridarshan's credits... he is a copy cat to start with... most of his movies are remakes... that's pathetic..

Well, most of priyadarshan movies are remakes, but before passing the judgement you should be clear about the facts as well. Virasat, was a remake of Kamal hassan movie and when Priyan had contacted Kamal hassan regarding buying the rights, he himself thought that it could not be made in hindi... Priyan has added his own flavour to the story and the end product was simply amazing..I dont think Hera phera was remake of any movie, and it is one of the best comedies ever made in india. I dont know whether gardish was a copy of another movie or not. Those of you who know about it, please come up with more details.And have you folks seen Saza-e-Kalapaani??? I found it as a very good movie, and I dont think it was a copy of any other movie... Recent movies of his has been a dud, and remake of most of his own malayalam movies.. of late, i have stopped watching his movies, but he is a good director and has made some very good movies..

RGV has made some very good movies and some very bad movies. I have seen both SHIVA and NISHABD.. I didnt like SHIVA, but I enjoyed NISHABD a lot.. NISHABD isnt a hit, but that doesnt mean that its a bad movie. I still believe that there is much more cinema left in him

I too dont regard Vidhu Vinod Chopra as a great story teller, but he is a great technician..He has movies like Parinda to his credit, which I belive is as good as SATYA..

unfortunately hera pheri was also a remake (that would have been some awesome credit though), check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priyadarshan and you will be disappointed :-), even gardish was remake...

yes virasat was too good but then when I sum up all his credits then it comes out to be zilch :-)..

well, there is difference between remake and copying..even Departed is a remake, but I found it very interesting.

and before passing any judgement on the quality of remakes, you should have seen the original. Most of the films, made by priyan in hindi were remakes of his own films in malyalam.

but does that defend Garam Masala or Malamal Weekly?

I am not defending Malamaal Weekly or garam masala or bhagam bhag.. But yes, I liked garish,virsat, hera pheri, saza-e-kalapaani, directed by priyan to name to few. He is not a dumb ass, as some you have believe him to be..

he is obviously not a dumb ass. coz he is making crores remaking malyalam movies and taking the credit..

hahahah good one Deepak!

even i liked gardish/ virasat/ hera pheri but they are all remakes... i mean if u remake a hit movie scene by scene and get some good actors to copy the stuff where is the scope for direction... the credit is diluted in a big way... on a similar note, would you give credit for saathiya to shaad ali or to mani rathnam for the original one?... what disappointed me most is that he lacks originality (interestingly if you read my earlier posts they say something else:-)...

and to add none of his hit/ good remakes were directed by him originally...

Hera Pheri	2001 - Sunil Shetty, Akshay Kumar, Paresh Rawal	Ramji Rao Speaking	1989 - Mukesh, Saikumar, Innocent. Director - Siddique & Lal
Doli Saja Ke Rakhna	1998 - Akshay Khanna, Jyothika	Aniyathi Pravu	1997 - Kunchako Boban, Shalini. Director - Fazil
Virasat	1997 - Anil Kapoor, Tabu, Pooja Batra	Thevar Magan (Tamil)	1992 - Kamal Haasan, Revathi, Gauthami. Director - Bharathan
Saat Rang Ke Sapne	1997 - Arvind Swamy, Juhi Chawla	Thenmavin Kombath	1994 - Mohanlal, Sobhana. Director - Priyadarshan
Gardish	1993 - Jackie Shroff, Amrish Puri	Kireedam	1989 - Mohanlal, Thilakan. Director - Sibi Malayil

Well, before saying that his movies are a frame by frame copy, you should have seen the original. Its not always easy to remake a movie. I dont know about other movies of priyan, but I have read about virasat. Even Kamal Hassan, has said that it cant be made in hindi.

And let me make myself very clear, by remake I dont mean frame to frame copy like the oldboy made into Zinda

What is your opinion about Martin Scorsese's  The Departed? If you are unaware, then its a remake of Infernal Affairs, a movie from Hong Kong

Dinrat , First of all  phir hera pheri is not directed by priyadarshan Malaamal weekly and garam masala  are  good films but cant be compared to hera pheri .As for  Farhan akhtar he is a  one film wonder dil chahta hai  is the only hit   his second film  lakshya dont even know when it came and went  Don it was all hype nothing to offer  Today all the directors are doing nothing except imitating sometimes the english films and sometimes remakes But i think  sanjay gadhvi the director of dhoom is good   director u watch out for his films   

hmmm i havent seen the original but the very fact that all his appreciated movies are actually remakes of movie by someone else then where is the originality? what if the original movies are better than the remakes? i would have been strong supporter of priyadarshan if at least one of his movie was original...

Kamal Hassan saying that remake of virasat is not possible, I am not sure if I get that, why are you basing your argument on priyadarshan being a good director on what kamal hasan felt about the original? or are you saying that the original was actually not good enough so it would have failed in bollywood but priyadarshan could put it in such a way that it was critically appreciated even in bollywood which essentially proves that he is a good director?

See the reason kamal Hasan felt that movie couldnt be made in Hindi is because the original was about a particular clan in Tamil Nadu - "Thevars" if I am not mistaken.. That would have created nativity issues with all-India viewers.. But I guess the story was good enough for anyone to identify and hence the movie was a hit.. But to to frank dont think the original was all that original in itself.. The story is similar to "The Godfather" but was very cleverly "Indianized"

I dont Sanjay Ghadvi is a good director. He has made 4 movies out of which 2 movies - Dhoom and Dhoom 2 were hits for reasons I cant think of. Another was - "Mere Yaar ki Shaadi Hain" which was a copy of "Mt Best Friend's Wedding" and his first movie was some major flop movie which nobody has heard of. Comparing him to Farhan Akthar is blasphemy. Although Lakshya was a flop it was still better than 95 %of the crap they make in Bollywood and definetly better than either Dhoom or Dhoom 2

dinrat  original films are hardly made this days but i think ashutosh gowarikar is one director who comes up with something new both his films swades and lagaan are good i like his work  and now iam waiting to see his  jodha akbar apart from him  there are so many directors in the industry sanjay leela bhansali subash ghai and vipul shah( director of aankhen and waqt) whom i believe has a lot to offer dinrat u are talking about those directors who hardly are able to give a hit ram gopal varma always delivers a flop can u defend his recent film nishabd james and shiva all that stuff i have heard he is making a remake of super hit film sholay the director has completely lost it he will fall flat that too with none other than nisha kothari as basanti oh ajay devgan he is good but cant do comedy and abhi too is not a good actor wonder what kind of film he is going to make i think with this film  ram gopal varma is already making preparations  to leave the industry 

i have liked movies by nagesh kukunoor, raj kumar santoshi...

But Rajkumar Santoshi really disappointed me with "Family" after a classic like "Legend of Bhagat Singh" and a very good "Khakee"

yeah... he took the wrong guy in lead role (actually he was producer's son)... another good director is prakash jha... gangajal and apharan both were good...

he made India's first sports movie - Hip Hip Hurray.. I remember watching that movie as a kid on Doordarshan... it had Raj Kiran as a football coach and was a very good movie

i remember that :-), pretty decent one... i think it had deepti naval or someone as lead actress...

talking about the downfall of directors how about sooraj barjatya- starting off with great movies - maine pyar kiya, HAHK and HSSH.. His last 2 movies were MPKDH - absolute stinker  and Vivah - below average..

ALso wat about the great Subhash Ghai who made great classic masala movies in the 70s 80s and early 90s  - Karma, Ram Lakhan, Meri Jung, Hero, Pardes, Saudagar, Kallicharan, Karz and Khalnayak but made 2 absolute stinkers the past few years - kisna and yaadein..he produced the classic - Iqbal a couple of years ago though